中國老虎證券來台搶生意 金管會卻沒聽過 - 投資
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作者: stasis (流雨風雪) 看板: Stock
標題: Re: [新聞] 中國老虎證券來台搶生意 金管會卻沒聽過
時間: Sat Feb 4 09:50:31 2017
回一下推文。
※ 引述《stasis (流雨風雪)》之銘言:
: 噓 crazysinger : 沒保障的一家 還不用簽一些應該簽的文件 大陸公司 02/04 02:00
你在說這篇嗎?別再道聽途說了大哥。
http://www.usastock88.com/2017/01/tiger-brokers-sipc-finra.html
『坦白說我不知道這篇文章的作者是依據什麼做出了我們不需要填寫W-8BEN的說法,
無論是通過鏈接開戶、官網開戶還是用tiger trade這款app開戶,最後一項都是要在
線填寫W-8BEN表格的。非美籍投資人的報稅在IB的清算賬戶中自動完成。』
話說要踢館的可以利用下面這篇。
https://goo.gl/kn8VY3
: 推 lockbolt : 如果有該簽的文件沒簽是蠻有問題的 02/04 02:02
: → lockbolt : 我有直接跟IB開的戶 以及透過正式代理跟IB開的戶 02/04 02:03
: → lockbolt : 透過正式代理開IB的戶該少的文件一件都沒少 02/04 02:03
: → lockbolt : 如果老虎是用交易團體的方式去跟ib開跟正式ib代理 02/04 02:05
: → lockbolt : 是不同的 02/04 02:05
: 推 lockbolt : 從IB那拿到交易帳戶不表示老虎如果要亂動你的錢IB會 02/04 02:07
: → lockbolt : 保護你的帳戶 02/04 02:08
美股帳戶裡的錢只能轉到同名帳戶,轉之前券商還會發確認信,
半夜打電話叫你起床尿尿,在這種硬性規範下,
還有什麼神奇招數可以把錢搞走嗎?我還蠻想知道的......
: 推 lockbolt : 簡化開戶流程未必是好事 少了一堆文件也少了保障 02/04 02:11
反正該填的都還是有填,不然你戶頭也開不起來。
: 推 Allenguy : 拿長年的信用幫這種公司做保? 02/04 02:37
我無法幫這家公司作保,只是中立陳述一些我看到的東西而已。
: 噓 dl123 : 這家證券風險很大 官網還寫說受SIPC投資保護 02/04 02:52
: → dl123 : 奉勸要海外投資不要馬虎 拿自己辛苦錢為他人作嫁 02/04 02:54
上手是IB,IB受SIPC保護沒錯。風險嘛,我不會說沒有,但跟直接在IB開差不多囉。
: 噓 iuowsiq : 護虎大軍出現啦,作包租公連10美元都付不起.... 02/04 04:15
: → iuowsiq : 當初的樂生也是派一堆人來這裡報進度.... 02/04 04:16
『大軍』?我怎麼沒看到? XD
我只看到一堆人連基本的功課都沒做,只因為人家是中國來的就逢中必反。
這篇的討論應該可以回答一般人會有的疑問了。
https://goo.gl/YLC8v1
: → Justisaac : 我是不太清楚老虎是不是所有的商品都從IB過 02/04 04:19
: → Justisaac : 還是說有部分他會自己跟客戶對賭。 02/04 04:19
據我詢問官方是沒有對賭。
: → tneduts : 這樣感覺就有點像IB進入中國發展業務的代理了 02/04 04:44
: → tneduts : 那還自己出個下單程式幹嘛,底層串IB的API的概念 02/04 04:45
就跟每家券商都會有自己的下單程式一樣吧,總是要加減搞些差異化,
話說老虎app裡面有個翻譯功能,對英文苦手的人應該有些幫助啦。
: 推 Yuwuen : 還有如果老虎有什麼潛在風險的話,未即時解除老虎經 02/04 08:27
: → Yuwuen : 紀商設定,會被影響嗎? 02/04 08:27
老虎掛了,就繼續在IB交易。你有開IB的話,這可以直接問IB客服。
: 噓 denispeter : 沒保障的中國貨,就是有人要推,害人找你 02/04 08:54
: → denispeter : 敢推薦,你敢負責? 02/04 08:55
再澄清一下,負責保障的是IB。網路上諸多教人開美股券商的文章,同樣的邏輯,
要是firstrade/scotrade/AD未來出了問題,你也要叫他們負責嗎?
就跟我貼包租文一樣,我提供自己的看法,但投資是自己的事,
要是有人買了包租文寫到的股票,最後賠錢跑來要我負責,
我只想回三個字:神經病。
: 推 boggae : 知道是中國公司就卻步了
那記得買台股的時候要避開在中國有設廠甚至有業務的,雖然這樣選擇會變很少就是。
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作者: stasis (流雨風雪) 看板: Stock
標題: Re: [新聞] 中國老虎證券來台搶生意 金管會卻沒聽過
時間: Sat Feb 4 09:50:31 2017
回一下推文。
※ 引述《stasis (流雨風雪)》之銘言:
: 噓 crazysinger : 沒保障的一家 還不用簽一些應該簽的文件 大陸公司 02/04 02:00
你在說這篇嗎?別再道聽途說了大哥。
http://www.usastock88.com/2017/01/tiger-brokers-sipc-finra.html
『坦白說我不知道這篇文章的作者是依據什麼做出了我們不需要填寫W-8BEN的說法,
無論是通過鏈接開戶、官網開戶還是用tiger trade這款app開戶,最後一項都是要在
線填寫W-8BEN表格的。非美籍投資人的報稅在IB的清算賬戶中自動完成。』
話說要踢館的可以利用下面這篇。
https://goo.gl/kn8VY3
: 推 lockbolt : 如果有該簽的文件沒簽是蠻有問題的 02/04 02:02
: → lockbolt : 我有直接跟IB開的戶 以及透過正式代理跟IB開的戶 02/04 02:03
: → lockbolt : 透過正式代理開IB的戶該少的文件一件都沒少 02/04 02:03
: → lockbolt : 如果老虎是用交易團體的方式去跟ib開跟正式ib代理 02/04 02:05
: → lockbolt : 是不同的 02/04 02:05
: 推 lockbolt : 從IB那拿到交易帳戶不表示老虎如果要亂動你的錢IB會 02/04 02:07
: → lockbolt : 保護你的帳戶 02/04 02:08
美股帳戶裡的錢只能轉到同名帳戶,轉之前券商還會發確認信,
半夜打電話叫你起床尿尿,在這種硬性規範下,
還有什麼神奇招數可以把錢搞走嗎?我還蠻想知道的......
: 推 lockbolt : 簡化開戶流程未必是好事 少了一堆文件也少了保障 02/04 02:11
反正該填的都還是有填,不然你戶頭也開不起來。
: 推 Allenguy : 拿長年的信用幫這種公司做保? 02/04 02:37
我無法幫這家公司作保,只是中立陳述一些我看到的東西而已。
: 噓 dl123 : 這家證券風險很大 官網還寫說受SIPC投資保護 02/04 02:52
: → dl123 : 奉勸要海外投資不要馬虎 拿自己辛苦錢為他人作嫁 02/04 02:54
上手是IB,IB受SIPC保護沒錯。風險嘛,我不會說沒有,但跟直接在IB開差不多囉。
: 噓 iuowsiq : 護虎大軍出現啦,作包租公連10美元都付不起.... 02/04 04:15
: → iuowsiq : 當初的樂生也是派一堆人來這裡報進度.... 02/04 04:16
『大軍』?我怎麼沒看到? XD
我只看到一堆人連基本的功課都沒做,只因為人家是中國來的就逢中必反。
這篇的討論應該可以回答一般人會有的疑問了。
https://goo.gl/YLC8v1
: → Justisaac : 我是不太清楚老虎是不是所有的商品都從IB過 02/04 04:19
: → Justisaac : 還是說有部分他會自己跟客戶對賭。 02/04 04:19
據我詢問官方是沒有對賭。
: → tneduts : 這樣感覺就有點像IB進入中國發展業務的代理了 02/04 04:44
: → tneduts : 那還自己出個下單程式幹嘛,底層串IB的API的概念 02/04 04:45
就跟每家券商都會有自己的下單程式一樣吧,總是要加減搞些差異化,
話說老虎app裡面有個翻譯功能,對英文苦手的人應該有些幫助啦。
: 推 Yuwuen : 還有如果老虎有什麼潛在風險的話,未即時解除老虎經 02/04 08:27
: → Yuwuen : 紀商設定,會被影響嗎? 02/04 08:27
老虎掛了,就繼續在IB交易。你有開IB的話,這可以直接問IB客服。
: 噓 denispeter : 沒保障的中國貨,就是有人要推,害人找你 02/04 08:54
: → denispeter : 敢推薦,你敢負責? 02/04 08:55
再澄清一下,負責保障的是IB。網路上諸多教人開美股券商的文章,同樣的邏輯,
要是firstrade/scotrade/AD未來出了問題,你也要叫他們負責嗎?
就跟我貼包租文一樣,我提供自己的看法,但投資是自己的事,
要是有人買了包租文寫到的股票,最後賠錢跑來要我負責,
我只想回三個字:神經病。
: 推 boggae : 知道是中國公司就卻步了
那記得買台股的時候要避開在中國有設廠甚至有業務的,雖然這樣選擇會變很少就是。
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